Last week, I wrote A Beginner’s Guide To MVC For The Web. In it, I described some of the problems with both the MVC pattern and the conceptual “MVC” that frameworks use. But what I didn’t do is describe better ways. I didn’t describe any of the alternatives. So let’s do that. Let’s talk about some of the alternatives to MVC…
Let’s restate the fundamental problems we talked about that exist with MVC:
MVC Is Stateful
It only makes sense if the View, as well as the View-Model binding is stateful (so the Model can update the View when it changes)
MVC Has No Single Interpretation
Every framework uses their own nuanced version.
How Does Logging Fit In?
Where does application code that’s not clearly data-centric belong in the application?
There are a whole bunch of siblings to MVC that take slight divergences and have narrow differences. Let’s briefly talk about a few of them:
This is quite similar to the MVC pattern, except that you can nest the triads together. So you can have one MVC structure for a page, one for navigation and a separate one for the content on the page. So the “top level” dispatches requests down to navigation and content MVC triads.
This makes structuring complex pages easier, since it allows you to create reusable widgets. But it brings all of the problems that MVC has, and solves none of them (it just adds complexity on top).
So HMVC doesn’t really solve our problems…
MVVM - Model-View-ViewModel
The difference between MVC and MVVM is a lot more subtle. The basic premise is that in normal MVC, it’s bad that the View is doing two jobs: presentation and presentation data logic. Meaning that there’s a difference between actual rendering, and dealing with the data that will be rendered. So MVVM splits the MVC View in half. The presentation (rendering) happens in the View. But the data component lives in the ViewModel.
The ViewModel can interact with the rest of the program, and the View is bound to the ViewModel. This means that there’s more of a separation between presentation and the application code that lives in the Model.
The controller isn’t mentioned, but it’s still in there somewhere.
Again, this solves some types of problems with MVC, but doesn’t address any of our issues.
MVP - Model View Presenter
MVP is a bit different from MVC in implementation. Instead of having the Controller intercept user interaction and the View render data, MVP structures itself a bit differently. The View is responsible for passive presentation. Meaning that it doesn’t bind to the Model, it just renders the data that it’s given. But it also receives user interaction events (like the MVC controller). Basically, the View is the only thing that’s exposed to the user.
The Presenter sits behind the View, and handles all of the functionality. When the View receives user interaction, it forwards it back to the Presenter. The Presenter then updates the Model, pulls data, and pushes data back into the View.
Like HMVC, it solves some of the problems with MVC. But also like HMVC, it doesn’t address any of the issues.
MVA - Model View Adapter
This means that the Model and the View never really talk to each other. Instead, they talk through the “Adapter” (which is really just an event-driven Controller).
The reason this is advantageous is that the View no longer needs to know about the Model. So you can achieve better separation and hence decoupling.
It also mean that the connection between the View and the Model can be stateless! Yay! Finally!
Except not. While the connection between the View and the Model can be stateless, the instances themselves still need to be stateful. The only stateless component is the connection between them.
So we’re still stuck with the same fundamental problems as MVC…
I’m not going to give much here, as PAC is really just like HMVC applied to MVA. It’s basically HMVA. With all the same problems.
In RMR architecture, you structure your application based on HTTP methods on resources which are then represented back to the user. So MVC Models become Resources (they map 1:1 to REST resources). The Controller becomes a “Method” object, and the View becomes the Representation.
This updates the MVC architecture for the HTTP web. It allows us to structure applications more like the requests that come in. And since we’re structuring the application more as actions-on-resources, we can simplify the interactions significantly.
This still doesn’t actually solve the stateful problem. Since Methods are actions on Resources, the Resources must be re-created for each request. Meaning that the entire triad system needs to be reconstructed for each request. Yay.
Not to mention that it doesn’t solve the other two issues at all.
Not to mention that it couples itself to HTTP so tightly that to try to map it to a CLI or GUI interface would be quite difficult.
ADR - Action-Domain-Responder
ADR is so close to RMR, that it’s really the same pattern with a few details tweaked. Action==Method, Resource==Domain and Representation==Responder. The only significant difference that I’ve seen is the amount of knowledge that the Responder (a Representation in RMR) has about the Domain (Resource).
It still has issues like “where does logging fit”, and having to rebuild state on each request. And it shares RMRs coupling to HTTP that it becomes difficult to make a non-HTTP interface.
There are a few points to notice about all of the patterns that I mentioned before. Let’s go through them one-by-one.
All Are Triads
Each one of the patterns that I talked about above is a triad. Meaning that there are three components to it.
It’s kind-of funny that > 90% of the predominant application patterns out there have 3 components. Really makes you wonder why…
I wonder if it’s because every one of the patterns is simply a different interpretation of the same underlying concept. The same way that SOLID really is just one concept that presents itself differently depending on how you look at it, perhaps MVC is one of those patterns. Everyone looks at it in a different way, and some realize that it’s different so they name it something else. But it’s the same underlying concept.
All The Triads Have The Same Conceptual Purpose
Each and every pattern has similar concepts:
- Something To Do Rendering
- Something To Do Interacting
Something To Represent Data / Business Rules
The difference between the patterns is how the relationships work and which component can talk to which other component.
Again, I ask, where does logging fit in? Where does charging a Credit-Card fit in? Where does the rest of the application fit?
Also, why are these three special? Is rendering always a single responsibility? Or are there times where it has multiple responsibilities that should be split up?
And this is the point. The underlying problem with all of them. There’s more to an application than just interaction and presentation. In fact, many would say that interaction and presentation are the smallest parts of the application (at least for non-trivial apps).
So why are we focusing on the interaction step?
Why are we focusing on the smallest and simplest part of our application, and shoving everything else either into a catch-all bucket of a Model, or outside of the pattern?
And that’s the biggest reason all of these “patterns”, “architectures” and “concepts” are a bad joke. They solve the easy problem, and throw the hard problem over the fence.
The first step to solving it, is recognizing that it exists.
We can’t have a discussion about something if we keep pretending that the problem isn’t there.
Some people have seen these problems, and they have invented things like AOP - Aspect-Oriented-Programming as a solution.
But I don’t think that’s the right way to handle it. If it’s not clear where something fits in your application, that’s a sign that your application architecture is flawed. Not that you need to introduce some magic in to get it to work.
So let’s admit that none of these are application architectures… And let’s admit that there is a problem we need to solve.
As far as the solution there…
Well, more on that next time.